Translated and realized
by Tommaso Venturini
Designed
by Marta Severo
 
 
 
   
 

NEWS ABOUT WANNA MARCHI & CO.
UNPUBLISHED DOCUMENTATION

THE AUTORITIES WERE INFORMED ABOUT THE "MAGICIAN" DO NAISIMENTO SINCE 1995, BUT THE JUDICIAL PROCEEDING HAS BEGUN ONLY IN 2001. IN THE MEANTIME THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES AND CITIZENS WERE TRICKED IN THE TOTAL INDIFFERENCE OF WHO WOULD HAVE HAD TO PROTECT THEM.
TODAY WE ARE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THE MAGISTRACY KNEW EVERYTHING EVEN BEFORE. IN A TELEVISION SHOW IN 1992 MAURIZIO COSTANZO INTERVIEWIED AN ADVERTISING AGENT, WHO REVEALED THAT:
1) COMPLAINTS HAD ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED;
2) THE MECHANISM OF THE "INVENTED OR NONEXISTENT MAGICIANS" WAS ALREADY OPERATING;
3) WANNA MARCHI'S TRICKS AND INTENTS TO EXPATRIATE AND CONSTITUTE CAPITALS ABROAD HAD ALREADY BEEN SIGNALLED.
WHY NONE INTERVENED?
WHY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WERE LEFT IN THE CLUTCHES OF A BAND OF BLACKMAILERS? WHO HAD INTEREST NOT TO STOP THE WORST BUSINESS OF THE HISTORY OF THE "MEDIA"?
WE INVITE YOU TO READ THE TEXT OF THAT TELEVISION INTERVIEW. IF ANY JOURNALIST IS INTERESTED IN THE VIDEOTAPE, JUST ASK US. OBVIOUSLY IS FREE. GOOD READING
- DOCUMENT 1 -
VIDEOLINA (CAGLIARI)-"AFTER DINNER" SHOW OF 03/01/1992
BROADCASTED IN ALL ITALIA BY A NETWORK
PRESENTED BY MAURIZIO COSTANZO
TRANSCRIPTION OF AN INTERVIEW BY MAURIZIO COSTANZO TO CARLO IBBA: ADVERTISER, AUTHOR OF THE 'MAGIC' TV-SALE.

Ibba: I will go everywhere they ask me to describe in details the mechanism of this blackmailing: the sending of the amulets, then the recalling etcetera etcetera.
Costanzo: We will speak of thin in a moment.
(advertising pause -- n.d.r).
Costanzo: Since the witnesses are in all Italy, Mr. Ibba tell us the story of the blackmailing, 'couse we're talking a bout a blackmailing before the advertising? What is it?
Ibba: Yes eh… These people instead of giving the classical amulet or talisman, give one which is compo… it is composed of two pieces, they send to them one and in the tv one see than the is kept in a, in a case by the magician.
Costanzo: Yes, and you can see also the magician's hand on the case.
Ibba: Yes, it is really like that. Then consider that we are talking about… about… they are distributing about 500/600 pieces a day, with a billing of…
Costanzo: 500 pieces a day?
Ibba: Yes, we are talking about a billions, a billions and half every year. Ah, sorry, every month. And there are quite a lot of people who knows these things, because they he worked with me. And they know what sales spring from these magicians. There are some who are legally ok because, some lawyers told me that if these people pay the taxes, in theory, they are ok. And they are accountants and lawyers, they follows the laws… it is a holding, located in Switzerland, which owns several companies and insurances in Italy. It is a colossal fraud under the eyes of everybody. There is this magistrate (name covered by a bip -- n.d.r) from this microphones I would like to urge him to be ask me, inquired me, whatever he wants but please stop those people 'cause they're a band of quacks. Because they recall the people and tell them "look, the magician still owns the other half of the amulet, therefore if you do not want see your life…". Because it is obvious, if the magician has charisma, they believe him.
Costanzo: Otherwise they wouldn't ask the amulet.
Ibba: Eh, they wouldn't ask it. When you believe in him all what the magician says comes true.
Costanzo: However, I want to do for a moment the devil's advocate. We should actually… substantiate a crime… incompetent circumvention. Because if everything is legally ok, is I send you something and told you… "you must pay it" and I told you before you had to pay for it… and I pay taxesregulating is all, if I send you a thing and tell you he. And you me pay for her and I had told you before you owe it to me to be paid. If I on that pay the taxes. There had been moment when they sold the water of the Trevi fountain, they sold a small tin labelled "air of Rome", and there was nothing in it, it was air of Rome… you can say it is ok, it could be an unwise purchase, but one cannot… how can you accuse them. It is for things they done to you, not for the all thing, because I don't understand the reasons…
Ibba: No… you see… It would be incorrect… there should be… but in Italy the politics, but also the justice is blocked, that's why I use the conditional… There should be should be the judges for those things. We could speak for five hours to establish who are the true magicians and who are the false ones.
Costanzo: Eh…
Ibba: Then, here the point is this: both in the printed advertising and in the television one, the psychological blackmail is clear, after they had the object, if they do not pay, these people are however persecuted by telephone. I have the evidence of this, because we did everybody…
Costanzo: Here, this…
Ibba: I did two years of investigations on this thing, and I have recordings, I have everything ready if (name of a magistrate covered by bip -- n.d.r). will finally want to listen to me about that.
Costanzo: Because you had never been called, never been heard.
(superimposed voices -- n.d.r).
Ibba: I remember having really done a mad fuss on The Union (Sardinian daily newspaper -- n.d.r), I tried in all ways to involve… I am preparing a dossier for everybody…
Costanzo: Wy don't they proceed against you.
Ibba: Eh beh…
Costanzo: Obviously…
Ibba: If they do that… I would immediately show that what I am saying is true and they would probably have the obstacles in this big organization, which by now is in Spain, in America…
Costanzo: The same?
Ibba: Yes, because they use as covering, this organization, which before treated expired bills etcetera. It was a small study of lawyers. He was the brother of a friend of mine who, I know he was here last Sunday as a guest.He works in my field. He was introduced to me by this young lawyer, but then he wasn't a lawyer… What was I saying?
Costanzo: No, you were saying that they arrived also in America.
Ibba: Yes and later to cover these mad billings… one can just look at the accounting… they started to manage also Wanna Marchi, the famous one.
Costanzo: Ah! Yes…
Ibba: Yes, which however is actually a covering, because the television spaces are bought capillarily to broadcast in all Italy, especially in the countryside because it is more… people are more… evidently he who does not have culture, believes more to these healers. And they persecute them, actually.
Costanzo: Wanna Marchi for the algae however, she doesn't…
Ibba: No, Wanna Marks does't, however heard that she is also taking the direction of magic. Moreover they will speak more and more about it, you will see in the next few years there will be a desire of spirituality, of misticism.
(superimposed voices -- n.d.r).
Costanzo: Mr. Ibba we will speak about that agais, let me see the time…

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- DOCUMENT 2 -

IN THE ITALIAN PART OF THIS SITE YOU CAN FIND THIRTEEN DIALOGUES REGISTERED BY AN OPERATOR WHO, FOR TWO YEARS, ANSWERED THE TELEPHONE OF THE "MASTER" DO NAISIMENTO: THE QUACK THAT, AFTER THE ARREST OF WANNA MARCHI AND HER DAUGHTER STEFANIA, HAD VANISHED. THE TRANSCRIPTIONS, ACTUALLY, ARE ABOUT THIRTY. WE PUBBLISH THERE A SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT TRANSLATE THE REGISTRATION ALSO IN ENGLISH, SINCE THE LANGUAGE USED IS CONFUSED AND DIALECT.
ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE OWNED BY THE AUTHORITIES SINCE A LONG TIME, BUT NO ONE MOVED IF NOT AFTER THE THE MICROPHONES AND TELECAMERAS.
THE INTERESTED AREAS ARE: Lombardy 4, Campania 3, Puglia 3, Emilia Romagna 1, Latium 1, Tuscany 1-provinces: Milan, Bergamo, Varese, Naples, Caserta, Salerno, Bari, Foggia (2), Forlì, Rome, Florence
The Other Telephone calls (do not present here) come from: Paternò, Milan (2), Stabia Castellamare (2), Sanremo, Monza, Padua, Aosta, Modena, Savona, Licata, Trani, Como, Reggio Calabria and Bergamo.

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- DOCUMENT 3 -


After the dialogues here you have the "confessions" of a few operators who worked for companies (included the one of Wanna Marchi) which, thanks to the Ministry of the Communications, used the AUDIOTEL lines (144, 166, 899) to cheat thousands of hopeless and needy people and families, stealing to the poor to give the rich, that is: themselves; the TELECOM; some editors and TV; and The Ministry Of Economy.
THIS SHOWS THAT THE SELF-REGULATION CODE FOR TV-SALES, CARTOMANCY ETC. - WANTED BY THE MINISTER MAURIZIO GASPARRI- NOT ONLY IS UNUSEFUL, BUT IT IS A GIFT FOR THE QUACKS: WHICH, FOR THEIR NATURE, ARE CHEATS AND EXTORTER. FUTHERMORE THE CRIMES OF QUACKS THAT USE THE TV ARE NEVER COMMITTED IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS, BUT BEHIND THE FIFTHS WITH THE COMPLICITY OF THE TELEVISIONS THEMSELVES.
AT LAST ONE ASK WHO OF DUTY: If doing the "magician" in our country and a crime ( v. (law only text publishes security), because not and forbidden PUBBLICIZZAZIONE LA?
IN ITALIA, HOW ONE KNOWS, AND FORBIDDEN PUBBLICITA LA OF THE SMOKE, EVEN IF SMOKE NOT AND A CRIME. NOT AND QUACKS' FORBIDDEN, INSTEAD, PUBBLICITA LA, WHAT ARE A LIVING CRIME. HOW DOES ONE EXPLAIN?

FOUR TELEPHONE OPERATORS CONFESS THEMSELVES
Testimony 1 (operator of the "teacher" Naisimento)
Besides the advices, the teacher, personified in the voice of the operators, gives salt, holy stuff, magic numbers and miraculous invoices. Probably the assertors of the placebo effect have never listened to the misfortunes of someone else while selling expensive articles without any power... They hace never have felt the despair for lack of love, health and money and promised all this, well knowing they were promising impossibly. They have never sold nothing asking everything in exchange.
The best operator is a kind of grandmother. She is the best because she is able to keep people stuck at the telephone and make them do orders of millions. Yes because at this number they sell everything to the unfortunates. But really everything: holy salt, glass amulets, plstic necklaces, talismans and mystical essences. Maybe, I am also in someway the 'Master', because after listening to the telephone call I must say: "wait while I consult the master". There is no master, but I put down the telephone for ten minutes, invent a response and sell, because otherwise the problems cannot be solved. In some way I feel accomplice of a colossal fraud. It is a dirty work, but someone must also do it… Almost all women, alone and with a series of bad lucks which I wouldn't believe could happen to normal people. He who is not able to lengthen the telephone calls and do not obtain solid orders is dismissed immediately. Lady A. apologized for the trouble, when I extorted her some money for the blessed necklace. But where are now my values?... I would not have such a cursed need to work. I do not know how long I can be silend and resist answering this horrible switchboard.
TESTIMONY 2
Since about a month I work with the magician R.R. of Naples! I do the telephone consults, 50 thousand lire each, and now they also put me on video. I just accepted this offer for money. Inside the entourage, terrible facts happen! For the moment, I try not to defraud people too much, but how many unemployeds are there only for the gain, ready to say anything just to not to lose the place! But this is not right, it is as ignoring the complaint on a mafia activity just because it satiates needy families. And then they are unemployeds who take away work to others, the citizens who phone. The "engagement"is done by R.R. directly, through a kind of verbal test in which he evaluates the aspirant. Everyone goes in live broadcast, however there are centers that works with pre-registred tapes. The telephone calls waits, before being passed to the operator; then I, as operator cannot check if the pause depends on queue or is just a way to make the telephone call more onerous. Besides, to the customer who complains because they were passed to an operator and not the R.R. himself, the centralinista offers the "choice": you can still wait (without the certainty to speak with R.R.) or you can talk to me. We are 25 people and we receive telephone calls for the all 10 hour of work, at 3500 lire at the minute. The accounts are done soon: if I multiply 25 (operators) by 3500 (cost at the minute) by 60 (minutes in an hour) by 10 (hours of work) the company of the R.R., boxes beyond 52 million lire per the day! That is 10 million euro at the year (almost 20 billion of old lire).

TESTIMONY 3
For about two years I worked for the I.L. srl as fortune-teller; the I.L. offers a service of cartomancy and lucky numbers. I am still very repentant to have cheated, under the order of the managers of the I.L., hundreds of people. Our task, and the task of all the other operators like me all, is to invent thinghs to frighten customers and make them recall even 10 times. I left because, according to the orders of the manager, we had to frighten customers saying that he had a death invoice. The customer recalled even 20 times a day, spending and running into debt him up to the neck. All the customers are frightened (if one understands that they are poor victims in need of a help). We had to ask questions on their work, family etc. The elders and the women are most cheated. A lot of people run into debt to call the I.L. 166 for fear of invoices. Some call a "kindness service" that with the illusion to be an urban line to spend of less, instead is an excuse to have them spoken more and extort more money, since the urban line is less checked than 166. Eva, another fortune-teller is expert in understanding who are the customers to be trapped. The I.L. also has a 166 and a 899. The I.L. is advertised on the broadcaster TEF of Perugia and the ASTRA monthly magazine.

TESTIMONY 4
I waited such a long time before contacting you... I worked for M. sas... I need some extra money at the end ot the month, but at what price? I was not well with me when I was leaving. We were not so well paid either, think about it! About a million lire a month and not event in one payment, advances here and there.
The most despicable individual is the manager... she is the chief of everything, even if the company is not registered to her, but under a dummy. This company M., I told you, is one of those who are called ghost companies... I need money, obviuosusly, but that is not… I don't scare people for money. Do you know how the work is?
Read carefully, they explain that to us in the same way:
1) APPROACH WITH THE BURK (manager's words, not mine). Understand who is and what problems he has, comfort him to the beginning, but inducing him to fully trust us and to do at least 4 recalls to 166 to begin. Then arrange an appointment for the day later.
2) THE CUSTOMER IS AN IMBECILE AND THE IMBECILES MUST BE CHEATED. Tell the customer what he wants to hear even if that does not comes out from the tarots. Do also "investigations on his life": who does he lives with, what car does he owns, what work does he do, everything that can help to understand who he is.
3) FRIGHTEN THE CUSTOMER: make the customer believe that he has a strong negativity and push him to call, call and call even 15 times a day. Then if we understood that the customer was a wealthy, but cracked type, we had to pass it the most expert!
4) She is most expert and the most bastard of the fortune-tellers. Very nice in appearance, but her task it is to induce the customer to do rites and to "put him in underpants"... she is liked by the customers and extorts them millions and almost no one has ever protested because she is expert in doing the brain washings.
I heard from another operator that a woman finished in hospital for tried suicide. However she does not work only with the l66, but with another service in which the customer pays about 1 euro per minute, calling to an urban number.
Then there are magic dusts, magic Egypt stones, blessed water etc.. . all supermarket stuff costing hundreds of euro to the customers. The customer sends the money order for prepaid calls and obviously the M. does not declare anything ... it is not right to do such things...
Another person who works for the M. goes on tv... and he prescribes drugs by telephone or undertakes diagnosis on the health of elders. Suggests pills, calming, ointments for the legs... luckily does not make 7 hours like us, but only a pair a day... I do not want my name to arrive to M. I am too scared to denounce them and I fear for my health. I had to change number, after I left, because of threatening calls ...