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NEWS ABOUT
WANNA MARCHI & CO.
UNPUBLISHED DOCUMENTATION
THE AUTORITIES WERE INFORMED ABOUT THE "MAGICIAN"
DO NAISIMENTO SINCE 1995, BUT THE JUDICIAL PROCEEDING HAS
BEGUN ONLY IN 2001. IN THE MEANTIME THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS
OF FAMILIES AND CITIZENS WERE TRICKED IN THE TOTAL INDIFFERENCE
OF WHO WOULD HAVE HAD TO PROTECT THEM.
TODAY WE ARE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THE MAGISTRACY KNEW EVERYTHING
EVEN BEFORE. IN A TELEVISION SHOW IN 1992 MAURIZIO COSTANZO
INTERVIEWIED AN ADVERTISING AGENT, WHO REVEALED THAT:
1) COMPLAINTS HAD ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED;
2) THE MECHANISM OF THE "INVENTED OR NONEXISTENT MAGICIANS"
WAS ALREADY OPERATING;
3) WANNA MARCHI'S TRICKS AND INTENTS TO EXPATRIATE AND CONSTITUTE
CAPITALS ABROAD HAD ALREADY BEEN SIGNALLED.
WHY NONE INTERVENED?
WHY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WERE LEFT
IN THE CLUTCHES OF A BAND OF BLACKMAILERS? WHO HAD INTEREST
NOT TO STOP THE WORST BUSINESS OF THE HISTORY OF THE "MEDIA"?
WE INVITE YOU TO READ THE TEXT OF THAT TELEVISION INTERVIEW.
IF ANY JOURNALIST IS INTERESTED IN THE VIDEOTAPE, JUST ASK
US. OBVIOUSLY IS FREE. GOOD READING
- DOCUMENT 1 -
VIDEOLINA (CAGLIARI)-"AFTER DINNER" SHOW
OF 03/01/1992
BROADCASTED IN ALL ITALIA BY A NETWORK
PRESENTED BY MAURIZIO COSTANZO
TRANSCRIPTION OF AN INTERVIEW BY MAURIZIO COSTANZO TO CARLO
IBBA: ADVERTISER, AUTHOR OF THE 'MAGIC' TV-SALE.
Ibba: I will go everywhere they ask me to describe in details
the mechanism of this blackmailing: the sending of the amulets,
then the recalling etcetera etcetera.
Costanzo: We will speak of thin in a moment.
(advertising pause -- n.d.r).
Costanzo: Since the witnesses are in all Italy, Mr. Ibba tell
us the story of the blackmailing, 'couse we're talking a bout
a blackmailing before the advertising? What is it?
Ibba: Yes eh
These people instead of giving the classical
amulet or talisman, give one which is compo
it is composed
of two pieces, they send to them one and in the tv one see
than the is kept in a, in a case by the magician.
Costanzo: Yes, and you can see also the magician's hand on
the case.
Ibba: Yes, it is really like that. Then consider that we are
talking about
about
they are distributing about
500/600 pieces a day, with a billing of
Costanzo: 500 pieces a day?
Ibba: Yes, we are talking about a billions, a billions and
half every year. Ah, sorry, every month. And there are quite
a lot of people who knows these things, because they he worked
with me. And they know what sales spring from these magicians.
There are some who are legally ok because, some lawyers told
me that if these people pay the taxes, in theory, they are
ok. And they are accountants and lawyers, they follows the
laws
it is a holding, located in Switzerland, which
owns several companies and insurances in Italy. It is a colossal
fraud under the eyes of everybody. There is this magistrate
(name covered by a bip -- n.d.r) from this microphones I would
like to urge him to be ask me, inquired me, whatever he wants
but please stop those people 'cause they're a band of quacks.
Because they recall the people and tell them "look, the
magician still owns the other half of the amulet, therefore
if you do not want see your life
". Because it is
obvious, if the magician has charisma, they believe him.
Costanzo: Otherwise they wouldn't ask the amulet.
Ibba: Eh, they wouldn't ask it. When you believe in him all
what the magician says comes true.
Costanzo: However, I want to do for a moment the devil's advocate.
We should actually
substantiate a crime
incompetent
circumvention. Because if everything is legally ok, is I send
you something and told you
"you must pay it"
and I told you before you had to pay for it
and I pay
taxesregulating is all, if I send you a thing and tell you
he. And you me pay for her and I had told you before you owe
it to me to be paid. If I on that pay the taxes. There had
been moment when they sold the water of the Trevi fountain,
they sold a small tin labelled "air of Rome", and
there was nothing in it, it was air of Rome
you can
say it is ok, it could be an unwise purchase, but one cannot
how can you accuse them. It is for things they done to you,
not for the all thing, because I don't understand the reasons
Ibba: No
you see
It would be incorrect
there
should be
but in Italy the politics, but also the justice
is blocked, that's why I use the conditional
There should
be should be the judges for those things. We could speak for
five hours to establish who are the true magicians and who
are the false ones.
Costanzo: Eh
Ibba: Then, here the point is this: both in the printed advertising
and in the television one, the psychological blackmail is
clear, after they had the object, if they do not pay, these
people are however persecuted by telephone. I have the evidence
of this, because we did everybody
Costanzo: Here, this
Ibba: I did two years of investigations on this thing, and
I have recordings, I have everything ready if (name of a magistrate
covered by bip -- n.d.r). will finally want to listen to me
about that.
Costanzo: Because you had never been called, never been heard.
(superimposed voices -- n.d.r).
Ibba: I remember having really done a mad fuss on The Union
(Sardinian daily newspaper -- n.d.r), I tried in all ways
to involve
I am preparing a dossier for everybody
Costanzo: Wy don't they proceed against you.
Ibba: Eh beh
Costanzo: Obviously
Ibba: If they do that
I would immediately show that
what I am saying is true and they would probably have the
obstacles in this big organization, which by now is in Spain,
in America
Costanzo: The same?
Ibba: Yes, because they use as covering, this organization,
which before treated expired bills etcetera. It was a small
study of lawyers. He was the brother of a friend of mine who,
I know he was here last Sunday as a guest.He works in my field.
He was introduced to me by this young lawyer, but then he
wasn't a lawyer
What was I saying?
Costanzo: No, you were saying that they arrived also in America.
Ibba: Yes and later to cover these mad billings
one
can just look at the accounting
they started to manage
also Wanna Marchi, the famous one.
Costanzo: Ah! Yes
Ibba: Yes, which however is actually a covering, because the
television spaces are bought capillarily to broadcast in all
Italy, especially in the countryside because it is more
people are more
evidently he who does not have culture,
believes more to these healers. And they persecute them, actually.
Costanzo: Wanna Marchi for the algae however, she doesn't
Ibba: No, Wanna Marks does't, however heard that she is also
taking the direction of magic. Moreover they will speak more
and more about it, you will see in the next few years there
will be a desire of spirituality, of misticism.
(superimposed voices -- n.d.r).
Costanzo: Mr. Ibba we will speak about that agais, let me
see the time
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- DOCUMENT 2 -
IN THE ITALIAN PART OF THIS SITE YOU CAN FIND THIRTEEN DIALOGUES
REGISTERED BY AN OPERATOR WHO, FOR TWO YEARS, ANSWERED THE
TELEPHONE OF THE "MASTER" DO NAISIMENTO: THE QUACK
THAT, AFTER THE ARREST OF WANNA MARCHI AND HER DAUGHTER STEFANIA,
HAD VANISHED. THE TRANSCRIPTIONS, ACTUALLY, ARE ABOUT THIRTY.
WE PUBBLISH THERE A SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT TRANSLATE THE REGISTRATION ALSO IN
ENGLISH, SINCE THE LANGUAGE USED IS CONFUSED AND DIALECT.
ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE OWNED BY THE AUTHORITIES SINCE
A LONG TIME, BUT NO ONE MOVED IF NOT AFTER THE THE MICROPHONES
AND TELECAMERAS.
THE INTERESTED AREAS ARE: Lombardy 4, Campania 3, Puglia 3,
Emilia Romagna 1, Latium 1, Tuscany 1-provinces: Milan, Bergamo,
Varese, Naples, Caserta, Salerno, Bari, Foggia (2), Forlì,
Rome, Florence
The Other Telephone calls (do not present here) come from:
Paternò, Milan (2), Stabia Castellamare (2), Sanremo,
Monza, Padua, Aosta, Modena, Savona, Licata, Trani, Como,
Reggio Calabria and Bergamo.
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- DOCUMENT 3 -
After the dialogues here you have the "confessions"
of a few operators who worked for companies (included the
one of Wanna Marchi) which, thanks to the Ministry of the
Communications, used the AUDIOTEL lines (144, 166, 899) to
cheat thousands of hopeless and needy people and families,
stealing to the poor to give the rich, that is: themselves;
the TELECOM; some editors and TV; and The Ministry Of Economy.
THIS SHOWS THAT THE SELF-REGULATION CODE FOR TV-SALES, CARTOMANCY
ETC. - WANTED BY THE MINISTER MAURIZIO GASPARRI- NOT ONLY
IS UNUSEFUL, BUT IT IS A GIFT FOR THE QUACKS: WHICH, FOR THEIR
NATURE, ARE CHEATS AND EXTORTER. FUTHERMORE THE CRIMES OF
QUACKS THAT USE THE TV ARE NEVER COMMITTED IN FRONT OF THE
CAMERAS, BUT BEHIND THE FIFTHS WITH THE COMPLICITY OF THE
TELEVISIONS THEMSELVES.
AT LAST ONE ASK WHO OF DUTY: If doing the "magician"
in our country and a crime ( v. (law only text publishes security),
because not and forbidden PUBBLICIZZAZIONE LA?
IN ITALIA, HOW ONE KNOWS, AND FORBIDDEN PUBBLICITA LA OF THE
SMOKE, EVEN IF SMOKE NOT AND A CRIME. NOT AND QUACKS' FORBIDDEN,
INSTEAD, PUBBLICITA LA, WHAT ARE A LIVING CRIME. HOW DOES
ONE EXPLAIN?
FOUR TELEPHONE OPERATORS CONFESS THEMSELVES
Testimony 1 (operator of the "teacher" Naisimento)
Besides the advices, the teacher, personified in the voice
of the operators, gives salt, holy stuff, magic numbers and
miraculous invoices. Probably the assertors of the placebo
effect have never listened to the misfortunes of someone else
while selling expensive articles without any power... They
hace never have felt the despair for lack of love, health
and money and promised all this, well knowing they were promising
impossibly. They have never sold nothing asking everything
in exchange.
The best operator is a kind of grandmother. She is the best
because she is able to keep people stuck at the telephone
and make them do orders of millions. Yes because at this number
they sell everything to the unfortunates. But really everything:
holy salt, glass amulets, plstic necklaces, talismans and
mystical essences. Maybe, I am also in someway the 'Master',
because after listening to the telephone call I must say:
"wait while I consult the master". There is no master,
but I put down the telephone for ten minutes, invent a response
and sell, because otherwise the problems cannot be solved.
In some way I feel accomplice of a colossal fraud. It is a
dirty work, but someone must also do it
Almost all women,
alone and with a series of bad lucks which I wouldn't believe
could happen to normal people. He who is not able to lengthen
the telephone calls and do not obtain solid orders is dismissed
immediately. Lady A. apologized for the trouble, when I extorted
her some money for the blessed necklace. But where are now
my values?... I would not have such a cursed need to work.
I do not know how long I can be silend and resist answering
this horrible switchboard.
TESTIMONY 2
Since about a month I work with the magician R.R. of Naples!
I do the telephone consults, 50 thousand lire each, and now
they also put me on video. I just accepted this offer for
money. Inside the entourage, terrible facts happen! For the
moment, I try not to defraud people too much, but how many
unemployeds are there only for the gain, ready to say anything
just to not to lose the place! But this is not right, it is
as ignoring the complaint on a mafia activity just because
it satiates needy families. And then they are unemployeds
who take away work to others, the citizens who phone. The
"engagement"is done by R.R. directly, through a
kind of verbal test in which he evaluates the aspirant. Everyone
goes in live broadcast, however there are centers that works
with pre-registred tapes. The telephone calls waits, before
being passed to the operator; then I, as operator cannot check
if the pause depends on queue or is just a way to make the
telephone call more onerous. Besides, to the customer who
complains because they were passed to an operator and not
the R.R. himself, the centralinista offers the "choice":
you can still wait (without the certainty to speak with R.R.)
or you can talk to me. We are 25 people and we receive telephone
calls for the all 10 hour of work, at 3500 lire at the minute.
The accounts are done soon: if I multiply 25 (operators) by
3500 (cost at the minute) by 60 (minutes in an hour) by 10
(hours of work) the company of the R.R., boxes beyond 52 million
lire per the day! That is 10 million euro at the year (almost
20 billion of old lire).
TESTIMONY 3
For about two years I worked for the I.L. srl as fortune-teller;
the I.L. offers a service of cartomancy and lucky numbers.
I am still very repentant to have cheated, under the order
of the managers of the I.L., hundreds of people. Our task,
and the task of all the other operators like me all, is to
invent thinghs to frighten customers and make them recall
even 10 times. I left because, according to the orders of
the manager, we had to frighten customers saying that he had
a death invoice. The customer recalled even 20 times a day,
spending and running into debt him up to the neck. All the
customers are frightened (if one understands that they are
poor victims in need of a help). We had to ask questions on
their work, family etc. The elders and the women are most
cheated. A lot of people run into debt to call the I.L. 166
for fear of invoices. Some call a "kindness service"
that with the illusion to be an urban line to spend of less,
instead is an excuse to have them spoken more and extort more
money, since the urban line is less checked than 166. Eva,
another fortune-teller is expert in understanding who are
the customers to be trapped. The I.L. also has a 166 and a
899. The I.L. is advertised on the broadcaster TEF of Perugia
and the ASTRA monthly magazine.
TESTIMONY 4
I waited such a long time before contacting you... I worked
for M. sas... I need some extra money at the end ot the month,
but at what price? I was not well with me when I was leaving.
We were not so well paid either, think about it! About a million
lire a month and not event in one payment, advances here and
there.
The most despicable individual is the manager... she is the
chief of everything, even if the company is not registered
to her, but under a dummy. This company M., I told you, is
one of those who are called ghost companies... I need money,
obviuosusly, but that is not
I don't scare people for
money. Do you know how the work is?
Read carefully, they explain that to us in the same way:
1) APPROACH WITH THE BURK (manager's words, not mine). Understand
who is and what problems he has, comfort him to the beginning,
but inducing him to fully trust us and to do at least 4 recalls
to 166 to begin. Then arrange an appointment for the day later.
2) THE CUSTOMER IS AN IMBECILE AND THE IMBECILES MUST BE CHEATED.
Tell the customer what he wants to hear even if that does
not comes out from the tarots. Do also "investigations
on his life": who does he lives with, what car does he
owns, what work does he do, everything that can help to understand
who he is.
3) FRIGHTEN THE CUSTOMER: make the customer believe that he
has a strong negativity and push him to call, call and call
even 15 times a day. Then if we understood that the customer
was a wealthy, but cracked type, we had to pass it the most
expert!
4) She is most expert and the most bastard of the fortune-tellers.
Very nice in appearance, but her task it is to induce the
customer to do rites and to "put him in underpants"...
she is liked by the customers and extorts them millions and
almost no one has ever protested because she is expert in
doing the brain washings.
I heard from another operator that a woman finished in hospital
for tried suicide. However she does not work only with the
l66, but with another service in which the customer pays about
1 euro per minute, calling to an urban number.
Then there are magic dusts, magic Egypt stones, blessed water
etc.. . all supermarket stuff costing hundreds of euro to
the customers. The customer sends the money order for prepaid
calls and obviously the M. does not declare anything ... it
is not right to do such things...
Another person who works for the M. goes on tv... and he prescribes
drugs by telephone or undertakes diagnosis on the health of
elders. Suggests pills, calming, ointments for the legs...
luckily does not make 7 hours like us, but only a pair a day...
I do not want my name to arrive to M. I am too scared to denounce
them and I fear for my health. I had to change number, after
I left, because of threatening calls ...
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